{"id":99945,"date":"2025-05-08T06:00:19","date_gmt":"2025-05-08T04:00:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.leaders21.com\/?post_type=podcast&#038;p=99945"},"modified":"2025-05-07T10:56:26","modified_gmt":"2025-05-07T08:56:26","slug":"02-command-control-war-gestern-oder","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/www.leaders21.com\/de\/podcast\/02-command-control-war-gestern-oder\/","title":{"rendered":"#02 Command &#038; Control war gestern&#8230; ODER?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wpb-content-wrapper\"><p>[vc_row][vc_column width=&#8220;1\/1&#8243;][uncode_block id=&#8220;85867&#8243;][\/vc_column][\/vc_row][vc_row][vc_column width=&#8220;1\/2&#8243;][vc_single_image media=&#8220;99946&#8243; dynamic=&#8220;yes&#8220; media_width_percent=&#8220;100&#8243; media_ratio=&#8220;one-one&#8220; uncode_shortcode_id=&#8220;118332&#8243;][\/vc_column][vc_column width=&#8220;1\/2&#8243;][vc_custom_heading heading_semantic=&#8220;h1&#8243; uncode_shortcode_id=&#8220;161109&#8243;]#02 Command &amp; Control war gestern&#8230; ODER?[\/vc_custom_heading][vc_column_text uncode_shortcode_id=&#8220;796855&#8243;]Agilit\u00e4t ist das Schlagwort der Stunde \u2013 doch wie viel Command &amp; Control steckt noch in unserer F\u00fchrungskultur?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>In dieser Episode spricht Thomas Kleindessner mit Leaders21 CCO &amp; F\u00fchrungsexperte <a href=\"https:\/\/www.leaders21.com\/de\/team\/fritz-krassnitzer\/\">Fritz Krassnitze<\/a>r \u00fcber das Spannungsfeld zwischen Agilit\u00e4t und klassischen F\u00fchrungsprinzipien wie Command &amp; Control. Gemeinsam gehen sie der Frage nach, wie viel Kontrolle F\u00fchrung heute noch braucht \u2013 und wo echte Selbstorganisation beginnen kann.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"780\" data-end=\"1045\">Die beiden diskutieren, warum Methoden allein nicht ausreichen, welche Haltung moderne F\u00fchrung verlangt und wie Vertrauen, Klarheit und Loslassen zentrale Rollen spielen. 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width: 100%; padding-top: 100%\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<p>[\/vc_column_text][\/vc_column][\/vc_row][vc_row][vc_column width=&#8220;1\/1&#8243;][uncode_block id=&#8220;85872&#8243;][\/vc_column][\/vc_row][vc_row][vc_column width=&#8220;1\/1&#8243;][vc_column_text uncode_shortcode_id=&#8220;817929&#8243;]<\/p>\n<h2>Shownotes<\/h2>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"1071\" data-end=\"1181\"><strong data-start=\"1071\" data-end=\"1106\">00:00 \u2013 Begr\u00fc\u00dfung &amp; Vorstellung<\/strong><br data-start=\"1106\" data-end=\"1109\" \/>Thomas stellt seinen Gast Fritz Krassnitzer vor und f\u00fchrt ins Thema ein.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"1183\" data-end=\"1331\"><strong data-start=\"1183\" data-end=\"1247\">01:15 \u2013 Warum das Thema F\u00fchrung gerade jetzt so relevant ist<\/strong><br data-start=\"1247\" data-end=\"1250\" \/>F\u00fchrung bewegt \u2013 besonders in Zeiten von Wandel, Unsicherheit und Transformation.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"1333\" data-end=\"1469\"><strong data-start=\"1333\" data-end=\"1399\">04:30 \u2013 Command &amp; Control: Entstehung und heutige Auspr\u00e4gungen<\/strong><br data-start=\"1399\" data-end=\"1402\" \/>Woher kommt dieser F\u00fchrungsstil \u2013 und warum ist er noch so pr\u00e4sent?<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"1471\" data-end=\"1621\"><strong data-start=\"1471\" data-end=\"1550\">07:10 \u2013 Realit\u00e4t in Unternehmen: Agilit\u00e4t als Wunsch \u2013 Kontrolle als Praxis<\/strong><br data-start=\"1550\" data-end=\"1553\" \/>Zwischen Idealbild und Alltag: Was passiert wirklich in Unternehmen?<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"1623\" data-end=\"1784\"><strong data-start=\"1623\" data-end=\"1698\">10:45 \u2013 Agilit\u00e4t beginnt nicht bei der Methode, sondern bei der Haltung<\/strong><br data-start=\"1698\" data-end=\"1701\" \/>Warum Frameworks wie Scrum nicht reichen \u2013 und wie F\u00fchrung neu gedacht werden muss.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"1786\" data-end=\"1942\"><strong data-start=\"1786\" data-end=\"1844\">14:30 \u2013 Vertrauen als Fundament f\u00fcr Selbstorganisation<\/strong><br data-start=\"1844\" data-end=\"1847\" \/>Wie l\u00e4sst sich Vertrauen als F\u00fchrungsprinzip leben \u2013 und was hei\u00dft das f\u00fcr den Kontrollverlust?<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"1944\" data-end=\"2062\"><strong data-start=\"1944\" data-end=\"1995\">18:20 \u2013 Warum F\u00fchrung trotzdem notwendig bleibt<\/strong><br data-start=\"1995\" data-end=\"1998\" \/>F\u00fchrung \u2260 Kontrolle. Wie geht Orientierung ohne Mikromanagement?<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"2064\" data-end=\"2203\"><strong data-start=\"2064\" data-end=\"2128\">21:50 \u2013 Praxisbeispiele: Wie neue F\u00fchrung funktionieren kann<\/strong><br data-start=\"2128\" data-end=\"2131\" \/>Fritz teilt Erfahrungen aus Organisationen, in denen der Wandel gelingt.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"2205\" data-end=\"2339\"><strong data-start=\"2205\" data-end=\"2263\">26:05 \u2013 Leadership &amp; New Work: Was es wirklich braucht<\/strong><br data-start=\"2263\" data-end=\"2266\" \/>Weg von Schlagworten \u2013 hin zu konkreten Schritten und echter Ver\u00e4nderung.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\" data-start=\"2341\" data-end=\"2461\"><strong data-start=\"2341\" data-end=\"2398\">29:15 \u2013 Fazit: Der Weg zu wirksamer, moderner F\u00fchrung<\/strong><br data-start=\"2398\" data-end=\"2401\" \/>Was wir mitnehmen k\u00f6nnen \u2013 und wo F\u00fchrung neu ansetzen muss.<\/p>\n<h3>Links:<\/h3>\n<p><strong>Leaders21 Summer Offsite<\/strong> am 24. und 25. 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